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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On Jul 8, 7:27�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:01:26 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com
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It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles.
Maybe. �However, the fact remains that the equations I have show light
to be traveling at 186,000 miles per second in two different frames of
reference without the distance contraction that causes anything that
reaches the speed of light to have a length of 0 in the Lorentz
equations. �Scientists definitely do not want to discuss those
equations.
Robert B. Winn
You'd better not let that sense of superiority go to head.
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There definitely is an advantage in having distances as they actually
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On Jul 8, 7:39 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
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"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 7:35 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 3:37�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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It cannot be done. �I talk to scientists in sci.physics.relativity.
That is all I am ever going to do.
Robert B. Winn
I have a sneaking suspicion that they never talk to you.
Rather like your relationship with God.
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Steve O
At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in
sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. Since I arrived at
equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me.
Robert B. Winn
Nah, they just gave up and killfiled you, I expect
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Steve O
No, I think they just avoid talking to me now that I have the
equations figured out.
Robert B. Winn
Let me know when the Nobel Prize arrives.
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Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On Jul 8, 8:31�pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
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rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
I go into greater depth than scientists do. �What I did, basically, is
to take the equations they threw away, the Galilean transformation
equations, and explained relativity of time with those equations.
That's nice, sweetie. Now why don't you go into the living room and
watch some TV, I think your cartoons are on, m'kay?
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You need to find someone else to call sweetie.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On Jul 9, 10:28�am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:19:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com
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On Jul 8, 1:17�am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
rbwinn wrote:
On Jul 6, 9:15 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Jul 7, 1:13 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
On Jul 6, 7:18 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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Photons were invented by Einstein. �He did not visualize them that
way, but that is how the Lorentz equations have them.
Yes, he carved them out of purest phlogiston. Very good with his hands..
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I am saying that before Einstein invented the idea of photons,
He didn't.
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was a different theory of light which was called the corpuscular
theory.
That was abandoned long before Einstein.
Robert B. Winn
Tell me coward-boy, is there ANYTHING you actually understand about
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Think whatever you want to think, Bob. Isaac Newton used the
corpuscular theory of light. Newton's equations , using the Galilean
transformation equations with absolute time, were the equations used
until the Michelson-Morley experiment.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On Jul 9, 3:04�am, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:22:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
According to scientists,
Light emitted by any source of light travels toward the point where it
is observed at 186,000 miles per second, regardless of the velocity of
the source of light.
That is correct.
Do you have a problem with that?
Are you aware that it has been confirmed by a large number of
experiments?
Or is this another debate you will run away from like the coward you
are?
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I never debate, Bob. I am not a lawyer. The equations thrown away by
scientists were the Galilean transformation equations.
x'=x-vt
y'=y
z'=z
t'=t
The Michelson-Morley experiment showed that light was traveling at
c=186,000 miles per second in either frame of reference. Einstein
showed this by two little equations extracted from the Lorentz
equations, x=ct, x'=ct'.
The second of these equations will not adapt to the Galilean
transformation equations because t' is already defined to be t'=t.
Consequently, time on a cesium clock in S', the moving frame of
reference, has to be defined as n', a different variable.
This gives us x=ct, x'=ct'. These two equations will only describe a
photon traveling on the x axis in the direction of motion of x'. A
photon traveling the opposite direction has a velocity of -c.
So we have to use velocity of light, not speed of light.
x=wt, x'=wn'
x'=x-vt
wn'=ct-vt
n'=t(1-v/t)
n', the time on a clock in S', is a slower time than t. There is no
distance contraction in these equations.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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Well, his sheep know his voice. Atheists do not.
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Jesus loves ewe!
Jesus was Welsh?
More likely, from Norfolk ;-)
Stephen Fry is God?
:-)
Well, his 'family' did, at one time, make nice chocolate.
Makes them worthy of veneration, even if not full blown worship 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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rbwinn wrote:
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On Jul 8, 7:27?pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:01:26 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com
wrote:
It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles.
Maybe. ?However, the fact remains that the equations I have show
light to be traveling at 186,000 miles per second in two different
frames of reference without the distance contraction that causes
anything that reaches the speed of light to have a length of 0 in
the Lorentz equations. ?Scientists definitely do not want to
discuss those equations.
Robert B. Winn
You'd better not let that sense of superiority go to head.
There definitely is an advantage in having distances as they actually
exist.
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Oooh!
look! physics in the God thread!
Yes There is a great advantage to distances being exact.
It is known as the crash and burn factor.
You see if you think you are not moving as fast as you really
are or if you think you are shorter as you move.
You hit things that should not be there yet or you get sidesmashed
by things that should have missed you.
This is also true of timing things with one absolute time instead
of a variable time.
:)
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James M Driscoll Jr
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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On May 27, 5:35 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
For that comment to be of the scale of Mitch's, you'd have to be a
blind amputee, with cerebral palsy and serious epilepsy who'd never
driven before.
But it is hard to be as wrong as Mitch.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? |
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Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
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On May 27, 5:35 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
On May 26, 9:20 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
No. I don't think so.
Well, not if it isn't a neurotic megalomaniac. Problem is, most human
"god" myths that claim it *is*.
"I want to know how God created this universe. All the rest are just
details." Albert Einstein
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1951333/Einstein-thought-religions-we...
Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
Yeah, sure. And I'm World Driving Champion.
For that comment to be of the scale of Mitch's, you'd have to be a
blind amputee, with cerebral palsy and serious epilepsy who'd never
driven before.
But it is hard to be as wrong as Mitch.
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Even Mitch has to work at it. |
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