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 Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:03 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
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Bill Ghrist wrote:
hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
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Actually, electricity costs about the same as gasoline fuel, perhaps
more.
Use Google: I don't know about electric bikes, but electric
automobiles are generally reported to get somewhere in the vicinity
of 3 miles per kWhr of charge. Comparing that to maybe 30 miles per
gallon of gasoline would put the gasoline costs at about three times
that of the cost of electricity (in the U.S.--even more in most
countries, where the gasoline prices are a lot higher than our
present $4 per gallon).
Yes, that stuff is true..
Simply because an electric motor is far more efficient than a silly ICE
that only turns a crankshaft 1/4 turn per bang if it is a 4 cyl.
But the problem is we need to make the electricity with some sort
of fuel still in spots where there is not enough sun, wind, nor water flow
and then we are back to the non effiecient fuel costs to make
the electricity at all.
What we need is newer ICE's like this one to produce electricity
off the vehicle and just charge the vehicles when needed.
http://realspaceman.spaces.live.com
Such an engine would create anywhere from 10 to maybe even 100 turns
of a generator shaft per bang to produce electricity far more efficient than
a
normal ICE of today.
A current 4 cyl ICE of today could only turn such a generator shaft once
per 4 bangs.
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:03 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bill Ghrist wrote:
hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
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Actually, electricity costs about the same as gasoline fuel,
perhaps more.
Use Google: I don't know about electric bikes, but electric
automobiles are generally reported to get somewhere in the vicinity
of 3 miles per kWhr of charge. Comparing that to maybe 30 miles per
gallon of gasoline would put the gasoline costs at about three times
that of the cost of electricity (in the U.S.--even more in most
countries, where the gasoline prices are a lot higher than our
present $4 per gallon).
Yes, that stuff is true..
Simply because an electric motor is far more efficient than a silly
ICE that only turns a crankshaft 1/4 turn per bang if it is a 4 cyl.
But the problem is we need to make the electricity with some sort
of fuel still in spots where there is not enough sun, wind, nor
water flow and then we are back to the non effiecient fuel costs to
make
the electricity at all.
What we need is newer ICE's like this one to produce electricity
off the vehicle and just charge the vehicles when needed.
http://realspaceman.spaces.live.com
Such an engine would create anywhere from 10 to maybe even 100 turns
of a generator shaft per bang to produce electricity far more
efficient than a
normal ICE of today.
A current 4 cyl ICE of today could only turn such a generator shaft
once per 4 bangs.
Haven't seen any motors like that before.
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You have not seen a 4 cyl that only turns the crankshaft 1/4 turn
per bang (most every 4 cyl of today) or you have not seen the FCICE
(Fluid Crankchaft Internal Combustion Engine)?
The new engine design has been around for a while,
Yet I have tweaked a bit here and there to only make it better
and of course I am not afraid of people making it for the better of the
World.
(some won't post such so they can make "all the money")
I don't need "all the money".
I just want more electricity for cheaper costs.
:)
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Bret
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:03:19 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
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Bret wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:03 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bill Ghrist wrote:
hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Actually, electricity costs about the same as gasoline fuel,
perhaps more.
Use Google: I don't know about electric bikes, but electric
automobiles are generally reported to get somewhere in the vicinity
of 3 miles per kWhr of charge. Comparing that to maybe 30 miles per
gallon of gasoline would put the gasoline costs at about three times
that of the cost of electricity (in the U.S.--even more in most
countries, where the gasoline prices are a lot higher than our
present $4 per gallon).
Yes, that stuff is true..
Simply because an electric motor is far more efficient than a silly
ICE that only turns a crankshaft 1/4 turn per bang if it is a 4 cyl.
But the problem is we need to make the electricity with some sort
of fuel still in spots where there is not enough sun, wind, nor
water flow and then we are back to the non effiecient fuel costs to
make
the electricity at all.
What we need is newer ICE's like this one to produce electricity
off the vehicle and just charge the vehicles when needed.
http://realspaceman.spaces.live.com
Such an engine would create anywhere from 10 to maybe even 100 turns
of a generator shaft per bang to produce electricity far more
efficient than a
normal ICE of today.
A current 4 cyl ICE of today could only turn such a generator shaft
once per 4 bangs.
Haven't seen any motors like that before.
You have not seen a 4 cyl that only turns the crankshaft 1/4 turn
per bang (most every 4 cyl of today)
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Never seen one, heard about them, pretty exotic really LOL |
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:03:19 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bret wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:03 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bill Ghrist wrote:
hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Actually, electricity costs about the same as gasoline fuel,
perhaps more.
Use Google: I don't know about electric bikes, but electric
automobiles are generally reported to get somewhere in the
vicinity of 3 miles per kWhr of charge. Comparing that to maybe
30 miles per gallon of gasoline would put the gasoline costs at
about three times that of the cost of electricity (in the
U.S.--even more in most countries, where the gasoline prices are
a lot higher than our present $4 per gallon).
Yes, that stuff is true..
Simply because an electric motor is far more efficient than a silly
ICE that only turns a crankshaft 1/4 turn per bang if it is a 4
cyl. But the problem is we need to make the electricity with some
sort of fuel still in spots where there is not enough sun, wind,
nor water flow and then we are back to the non effiecient fuel
costs to make
the electricity at all.
What we need is newer ICE's like this one to produce electricity
off the vehicle and just charge the vehicles when needed.
http://realspaceman.spaces.live.com
Such an engine would create anywhere from 10 to maybe even 100
turns of a generator shaft per bang to produce electricity far more
efficient than a
normal ICE of today.
A current 4 cyl ICE of today could only turn such a generator shaft
once per 4 bangs.
Haven't seen any motors like that before.
You have not seen a 4 cyl that only turns the crankshaft 1/4 turn
per bang (most every 4 cyl of today)
Never seen one, heard about them, pretty exotic really LOL
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hmm?
If you have never seen a 4cyl that only gets 1/4 crankshaft turn from
one bang and needs 4 bangs just to make one crankshaft revolution
then , simply go out to any 4cyl auto and open the hood,
"with permission of the owner of course" and look.
They are far from exotic.
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Bret Cahill
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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You can get a large seat and a fully sprung mountain bike if you're
THAT fat.
Well, if you're that fat, you probably don't
need to worry about getting laid either.
But this is a question about being ruled by
the maternalistic nanny goat fascists. �Does
the taxpayer have to subsidize the Viagra
for bikers who are too fat to get laid anyway?
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0302283804005627
Results:
The reported incidence of bicycling related urogenital
symptoms varies considerably. The most common
bicycling associated urogenital problems are nerve
entrapment syndromes presenting as genitalia numbness,
which is reported in 50-91% of the cyclists, followed
by erectile dysfunction reported in 13-24%. Other
less common symptoms include priapism, penile
thrombosis, infertility, hematuria, torsion of spermatic
cord, prostatitis, perineal nodular induration and
elevated serum PSA, which are reported only sporadically.
Conclusions:
Urologists should be aware that bicycling is a potential
and not an infrequent cause of a variety of urological
and andrological disorders caused by overuse injuries
affecting the genitourinary system.
Shouldn't we tax the bikers to pay for their sexually
unhealthy lifestyle?
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Would a bicycle mounted gun rack appeal to lifetime members of the
NRA?
It's a dubious proposition because fresh air and exercize just don't
go together with hissing, "out of my cold dead hands."
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Bret
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:02:59 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
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Bret wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:03:19 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bret wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:03 -0400, Spaceman wrote:
Bill Ghrist wrote:
hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Actually, electricity costs about the same as gasoline fuel,
perhaps more.
Use Google: I don't know about electric bikes, but electric
automobiles are generally reported to get somewhere in the
vicinity of 3 miles per kWhr of charge. Comparing that to maybe
30 miles per gallon of gasoline would put the gasoline costs at
about three times that of the cost of electricity (in the
U.S.--even more in most countries, where the gasoline prices are
a lot higher than our present $4 per gallon).
Yes, that stuff is true..
Simply because an electric motor is far more efficient than a silly
ICE that only turns a crankshaft 1/4 turn per bang if it is a 4
cyl. But the problem is we need to make the electricity with some
sort of fuel still in spots where there is not enough sun, wind,
nor water flow and then we are back to the non effiecient fuel
costs to make
the electricity at all.
What we need is newer ICE's like this one to produce electricity
off the vehicle and just charge the vehicles when needed.
http://realspaceman.spaces.live.com
Such an engine would create anywhere from 10 to maybe even 100
turns of a generator shaft per bang to produce electricity far more
efficient than a
normal ICE of today.
A current 4 cyl ICE of today could only turn such a generator shaft
once per 4 bangs.
Haven't seen any motors like that before.
You have not seen a 4 cyl that only turns the crankshaft 1/4 turn
per bang (most every 4 cyl of today)
Never seen one, heard about them, pretty exotic really LOL
hmm?
If you have never seen a 4cyl that only gets 1/4 crankshaft turn from
one bang and needs 4 bangs just to make one crankshaft revolution
then , simply go out to any 4cyl auto and open the hood,
"with permission of the owner of course" and look.
They are far from exotic.
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Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car. |
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car.
Oh... shit.. |
I'm sorry.
I should have been comparing to a 2 cyl and saying
2 bangs for one spin..
I am really wrong on that one and admit I was spacing out
real bad ..
Still though.
2 bangs for 1 rev compared to 1 bang for maybe
even 100 revs?
What do you think about that anyway?
For an electric generator anyway.
I think it would be ultimate for a house powering
system.
with enough thoughts and an air tank for starting it
because it will need some way and why not
just blow air in one side of course then the other
side kicks it on.
It can have a small compressor that is electric
powered from a battery just like a regular car
but charged constantly by the engine making
the electricity of course for the air start.
:)
the bangs are my money and Iwant revs
of my generator.
So 100 revs for 1 bang
or 1 rev for 2 bangs?
OOOO OOO
I want 100 revs for only 1 bang!!!.
Why would I give you 2 bangs for only 1 rev!
that would be crazy.
thanks man!
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Spaceman wrote:
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Bret wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
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WooooHoooo
2 crank(shafts) communicate.
This should be fun.
Hey Spaceman, got to figure why electronic engine management and fuel
metering (ECU / EFI) beats carburettors yet ?
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Eeyore wrote:
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Spaceman wrote:
Bret wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
WooooHoooo
2 crank(shafts) communicate.
This should be fun.
Hey Spaceman, got to figure why electronic engine management and fuel
metering (ECU / EFI) beats carburettors yet ?
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I have never said they did not do such,
What twist are you trying to pull Eeyore?
I know why and would not even bother with such
talk since it has not even been mentioned..
Oh wait.. I see..
I am silly.
You are still just trolling instead of
actually wanting to discuss mechanics or physics.
Nevermind ..
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Bret
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:59:13 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
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Spaceman wrote:
Bret wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
WooooHoooo
2 crank(shafts) communicate.
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Plonk
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This should be fun.
Hey Spaceman, got to figure why electronic engine management and fuel
metering (ECU / EFI) beats carburettors yet ?
Graham |
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:59:13 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
Bret wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
WooooHoooo
2 crank(shafts) communicate.
Plonk
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Nooo!
Don't kick the puppy dog..
dang..
LOL
:)
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car.
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How about three cylinders? Lots of them.
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Oh... shit..
I'm sorry.
I should have been comparing to a 2 cyl and saying
2 bangs for one spin..
I am really wrong on that one and admit I was spacing out
real bad ..
Still though.
2 bangs for 1 rev compared to 1 bang for maybe
even 100 revs?
What do you think about that anyway?
For an electric generator anyway.
I think it would be ultimate for a house powering
system.
with enough thoughts and an air tank for starting it
because it will need some way and why not
just blow air in one side of course then the other
side kicks it on.
It can have a small compressor that is electric
powered from a battery just like a regular car
but charged constantly by the engine making
the electricity of course for the air start.
:)
the bangs are my money and Iwant revs
of my generator.
So 100 revs for 1 bang
or 1 rev for 2 bangs?
OOOO OOO
I want 100 revs for only 1 bang!!!.
Why would I give you 2 bangs for only 1 rev!
that would be crazy.
thanks man!
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Bret
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:49:18 -0500, John wrote:
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Bret wrote:
Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car.
How about three cylinders? Lots of them.
Not around here, rode in a 3 wheeled beast in Thailand, 2 stroke - not sure |
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Spaceman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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John wrote:
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Bret wrote:
Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car.
How about three cylinders? Lots of them.
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anything mechanical is possible really.
C,mon..
mechanics rule!
;)
Who has access to his own machine shop!
:)
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Maximum Cycling Range for Max Fuel Efficiency & Money Sa |
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Bret wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:49:18 -0500, John wrote:
Bret wrote:
Never seen a four cylinder two stroke powered car.
How about three cylinders? Lots of them.
Not around here, rode in a 3 wheeled beast in Thailand, 2 stroke -
not sure how many cylinders.
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thailand? eek
that might have been a single piston
It's the best for those still.
:)
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