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 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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Matter's electromagnetic field is supposed to go to infinity but it
apperently gets canceled at short distances. Look at light it is an EM
field that spreads out into space soley at the size of its wavelength
and amplitude. This is EM field that is confined to an electromagentic
packet.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 21, 12:16 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
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Matter's electromagnetic field is supposed to go to infinity but it
apperently gets canceled at short distances. Look at light it is an EM
field that spreads out into space soley at the size of its wavelength
and amplitude. This is EM field that is confined to an electromagentic
packet.
Mitch Raemsch
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The electromagnetic field of matter tends to remain immediate to that
matter.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 22, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jun 21, 12:16 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
Matter's electromagnetic field is supposed to go to infinity but it
apperently gets canceled at short distances. Look at light it is an EM
field that spreads out into space soley at the size of its wavelength
and amplitude. This is EM field that is confined to an electromagentic
packet.
Mitch Raemsch
The electromagnetic field of matter tends to remain immediate to that
matter.
Mitch Raemsch
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But does it really? We can detect the field from the sun around here,
can't we? It's just weaker than it is from closer to the source. I
see what your saying though, that the field does not seem to actually
go to infinity. I suppose to a great extent that it's probably just a
very useful mathematical artifice, but hey we work with what we have. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 22, 5:07 pm, eratosthenes <rehamkcir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 22, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 12:16 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
Matter's electromagnetic field is supposed to go to infinity but it
apperently gets canceled at short distances. Look at light it is an EM
field that spreads out into space soley at the size of its wavelength
and amplitude. This is EM field that is confined to an electromagentic
packet.
Mitch Raemsch
The electromagnetic field of matter tends to remain immediate to that
matter.
Mitch Raemsch
But does it really? We can detect the field from the sun around here,
can't we? It's just weaker than it is from closer to the source. I
see what your saying though, that the field does not seem to actually
go to infinity. I suppose to a great extent that it's probably just a
very useful mathematical artifice, but hey we work with what we have.
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I have never heard of the electric field of the Sun expanding out to
the planets.
I wish to find out how immediate to matter the electric field is.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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I have never heard of the electric field of the Sun expanding out to
the planets.
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It in fact does. The magnetic field of the Sun creates the
heliospheric current sheet, an inwardly directed current which at the
earth is about a million amperes. This is what's responsible for the
Aurora Borealis and similar phenomenon.
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I wish to find out how immediate to matter the electric field is.
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It's my understanding that the electric field in fact permeates the
matter itself, insofar as each part of the matter generates a field.
I'm not certain what the ultimate constituents of matter are though.
I couldn't say for sure if the field is inside the fundamental
building blocks themselves.
However, I can say for sure that no matter how close to the matter you
get you cannot get inside the field. That is out of the influence of
it. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 24, 2:26 pm, eratosthenes <rehamkcir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I have never heard of the electric field of the Sun expanding out to
the planets.
It in fact does. The magnetic field of the Sun creates the
heliospheric current sheet, an inwardly directed current which at the
earth is about a million amperes. This is what's responsible for the
Aurora Borealis and similar phenomenon.
I wish to find out how immediate to matter the electric field is.
It's my understanding that the electric field in fact permeates the
matter itself, insofar as each part of the matter generates a field.
I'm not certain what the ultimate constituents of matter are though.
I couldn't say for sure if the field is inside the fundamental
building blocks themselves.
However, I can say for sure that no matter how close to the matter you
get you cannot get inside the field. That is out of the influence of
it.
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The core of the fundamnetal point particle is C squared infinitely
concentrated energy known as its mass. Because of its motion(through
space) all mass is above C squared concentrated energy by the math
factor of Gamma.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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The core of the fundamnetal point particle is C squared infinitely
concentrated energy known as its mass. Because of its motion(through
space) all mass is above C squared concentrated energy by the math
factor of Gamma.
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I don't think what you've said here makes any sense. Please clarify,
a formula maybe? |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 27, 5:00 pm, eratosthenes <rehamkcir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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The core of the fundamnetal point particle is C squared infinitely
concentrated energy known as its mass. Because of its motion(through
space) all mass is above C squared concentrated energy by the math
factor of Gamma.
I don't think what you've said here makes any sense. Please clarify,
a formula maybe?
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The formula is the Gamma factor for matter's speed combined with
E=MC^2
Matter in motion has a higher kinetic energy level and therefore more
mass.
Energy=Gamma MC ^2
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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Matter in motion has a higher kinetic energy level and therefore more
mass.
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Yes, but what does that have to do with the EM field that the object
emits? All that relativistic motion will do is affect the emission
frequency of the field. The effective mass of the body does not have
a lot of effect here. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 28, 5:16 am, eratosthenes <rehamkcir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Matter in motion has a higher kinetic energy level and therefore more
mass.
Yes, but what does that have to do with the EM field that the object
emits? All that relativistic motion will do is affect the emission
frequency of the field. The effective mass of the body does not have
a lot of effect here.
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If mass moves the forces surounding it also move.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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If mass moves the forces surounding it also move.
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No. A mass moves as a result of the external forces impressed upon
it. Those forces are the result of the potential that the mass is
in. Classical physics.
Moving mass that has charge will induce an EM field around that will
change due to the motion. However that is the force inducing the
motion and hence inducing the field.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:14 am Post subject: Re: The extension of the electromagnetic field |
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On Jun 29, 6:45 pm, eratosthenes <rehamkcir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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If mass moves the forces surounding it also move.
No. A mass moves as a result of the external forces impressed upon
it. Those forces are the result of the potential that the mass is
in. Classical physics.
Moving mass that has charge will induce an EM field around that will
change due to the motion. However that is the force inducing the
motion and hence inducing the field.
Patrick
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Forces surround infinitely dense concentrated energy of mass of a
point particle. That infinitely dense energy is above C^2 by the Gamma
factor due to the masses motion.
Mitch Raemsch |
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