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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 16, 5:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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BURT wrote:
On Jul 16, 2:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:16 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Mitch Raemsch
mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
NO.
The only knowledge we have of this god comes from the bible, which
does contain wrong science - science that matches the knowledge level
of people
who lived in the time the bible was written. If he created our
scientific
journey, he gave us a bum steer, and only man himself could correct
it - even at the risk of being burnt alive at the stake for heresy..
"How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to
another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no
theology?
I don't know, I guess it can't.
In my view, it is the most important function of art and
science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are
receptive to it. " Albert Einstein in Religion and Science
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the
rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no
more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner
experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory
impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty
and devoid of meaning."
[Albert Einstein, letter of 5 February 1921]
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At the end of his life he said the more he believed in a Creator.
Cite?
Unfortunately I don't rememeber where he wrote it.
But it started earlier in his life.
"I want to know how God created this universe. I am not interested in
the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All
the rest are just details."
Also Einstein:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it".
So, unless you can show where he said "believed in a Creator", it
remains an unsupported assertion.
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I don't have to do what you say Dan. And still I am the winner.
Mitch Raemsch
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DanielSan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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BURT wrote:
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On Jul 16, 2:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:16 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Mitch Raemsch
mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
NO.
The only knowledge we have of this god comes from the bible, which
does contain wrong science - science that matches the knowledge level
of people
who lived in the time the bible was written. If he created our
scientific
journey, he gave us a bum steer, and only man himself could correct
it - even at the risk of being burnt alive at the stake for heresy.
"How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to
another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no
theology?
I don't know, I guess it can't.
In my view, it is the most important function of art and
science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are
receptive to it. " Albert Einstein in Religion and Science
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the
rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no
more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner
experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory
impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty
and devoid of meaning."
[Albert Einstein, letter of 5 February 1921]
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At the end of his life he said the more he believed in a Creator.
Cite?
Unfortunately I don't rememeber where he wrote it.
But it started earlier in his life.
"I want to know how God created this universe. I am not interested in
the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All
the rest are just details."
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Also Einstein:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it".
So, unless you can show where he said "believed in a Creator", it
remains an unsupported assertion.
--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
* wants them to do because I notice it always *
* coincides with their own desires." *
* --Susan B. Anthony *
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DanielSan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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BURT wrote:
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On Jul 16, 5:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 16, 2:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:16 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Mitch Raemsch
mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
NO.
The only knowledge we have of this god comes from the bible, which
does contain wrong science - science that matches the knowledge level
of people
who lived in the time the bible was written. If he created our
scientific
journey, he gave us a bum steer, and only man himself could correct
it - even at the risk of being burnt alive at the stake for heresy.
"How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to
another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no
theology?
I don't know, I guess it can't.
In my view, it is the most important function of art and
science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are
receptive to it. " Albert Einstein in Religion and Science
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the
rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no
more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner
experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory
impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty
and devoid of meaning."
[Albert Einstein, letter of 5 February 1921]
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At the end of his life he said the more he believed in a Creator.
Cite?
Unfortunately I don't rememeber where he wrote it.
But it started earlier in his life.
"I want to know how God created this universe. I am not interested in
the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All
the rest are just details."
Also Einstein:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it".
So, unless you can show where he said "believed in a Creator", it
remains an unsupported assertion.
I don't have to do what you say Dan.
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No. You're not required to back up your assertions. I am, also, not
required to believe you.
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And still I am the winner.
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"Winner"?
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******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
* wants them to do because I notice it always *
* coincides with their own desires." *
* --Susan B. Anthony *
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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BURT wrote:
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On Jul 16, 5:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 16, 2:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:16 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Mitch Raemsch
mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
NO.
The only knowledge we have of this god comes from the bible, which
does contain wrong science - science that matches the knowledge level
of people
who lived in the time the bible was written. If he created our
scientific
journey, he gave us a bum steer, and only man himself could correct
it - even at the risk of being burnt alive at the stake for heresy.
"How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to
another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no
theology?
I don't know, I guess it can't.
In my view, it is the most important function of art and
science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are
receptive to it. " Albert Einstein in Religion and Science
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the
rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no
more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner
experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory
impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty
and devoid of meaning."
[Albert Einstein, letter of 5 February 1921]
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At the end of his life he said the more he believed in a Creator.
Cite?
Unfortunately I don't rememeber where he wrote it.
But it started earlier in his life.
"I want to know how God created this universe. I am not interested in
the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All
the rest are just details."
Also Einstein:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it".
So, unless you can show where he said "believed in a Creator", it
remains an unsupported assertion.
I don't have to do what you say Dan. And still I am the winner.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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DanielSan wrote:
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BURT wrote:
On Jul 16, 5:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 16, 2:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:16 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Mitch Raemsch
mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
NO.
The only knowledge we have of this god comes from the bible, which
does contain wrong science - science that matches the knowledge
level
of people
who lived in the time the bible was written. If he created our
scientific
journey, he gave us a bum steer, and only man himself could
correct
it - even at the risk of being burnt alive at the stake for
heresy.
"How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one
person to
another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no
theology?
I don't know, I guess it can't.
In my view, it is the most important function of art and
science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are
receptive to it. " Albert Einstein in Religion and Science
"The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly
in the
rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is
for me no
more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner
experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory
impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to
be empty
and devoid of meaning."
[Albert Einstein, letter of 5 February 1921]
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At the end of his life he said the more he believed in a Creator.
Cite?
Unfortunately I don't rememeber where he wrote it.
But it started earlier in his life.
"I want to know how God created this universe. I am not interested in
the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All
the rest are just details."
Also Einstein:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it".
So, unless you can show where he said "believed in a Creator", it
remains an unsupported assertion.
I don't have to do what you say Dan.
No. You're not required to back up your assertions. I am, also, not
required to believe you.
And still I am the winner.
"Winner"?
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He's misspelling "whiner." |
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