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 Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: When God Created Physics |
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He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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BURT wrote:
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He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
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"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
"...the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Albert Einstein
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Mitch Raemsch
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 11, 4:30 pm, "Sla#s" <p...@KNOTslatts.net> wrote:
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BURT wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
"...the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Albert Einstein
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Mitch Raemsch
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 12, 12:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:30 pm, "Sla#s" <p...@KNOTslatts.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
"...the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Albert Einstein
===========================> >> Slatts
"God does not play dice." Albert Einstein
He doesn't believe in a personal God. See above.
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* wants them to do because I notice it always *
* coincides with their own desires." *
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I never said otherwise so why are you pointing it out?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 11, 4:06 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
Mitch Raemsch
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Why did your god create this particular set of physical laws and not
another? Did he sit down and do the calculations and some experiments
to see if it all worked together or did he just sort of barf up a
universe? Why did he need so much universe if he was going to populate
and focuse his attention on only one little speck within it? Why does
he continue to maintain so much universe? Couldn't he accomplish the
same thing with one planet only? Couldn't he have lighted and heated
a little planet by himself, without having to create a sun or
radioactivity? And why did he limit his creation to only a relative
handful of elements and then use only a small subset of those to
manufacture all of life? Couldn't he have breathed life into anything
and everything?
I mean, if he's all powerful, he could have just created us and
plonked us down on any old thing that didn't have to be part of a
larger system at all. Why does an all-powerful being need to create
or use any physical laws/properties at all? Perhaps your god was
limited by existing laws of physics, which would mean he wasn't all-
powerful.
Why would a god need to create bacteria (or viruses or ants or
trees . . .) if he wasn't going to offer them a chance to get into
heaven, as well? He could have endowed clams with consciousness and
made them his chosen critters if all he'd wanted was company,
something to control or something that would worship him. He could
certainly have made mankind able to survive in a vacuum and then there
would be no need to create an entire planetary support system, so why
all the extra stuff?
If you're going to insist that your god is the creator of everything -
and (I'm assuming here) insist that this view of life and the universe
be taught in science classes, you'll have to start thinking about
those questions, and more, and find ways to investigate them in a
scientific manner.
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BURT
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 12, 4:00 pm, walk...@easystreet.net wrote:
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On Jul 11, 4:06 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
Mitch Raemsch
Why did your god create this particular set of physical laws and not
another? Did he sit down and do the calculations and some experiments
to see if it all worked together or did he just sort of barf up a
universe? Why did he need so much universe if he was going to populate
and focuse his attention on only one little speck within it? Why does
he continue to maintain so much universe? Couldn't he accomplish the
same thing with one planet only? Couldn't he have lighted and heated
a little planet by himself, without having to create a sun or
radioactivity? And why did he limit his creation to only a relative
handful of elements and then use only a small subset of those to
manufacture all of life? Couldn't he have breathed life into anything
and everything?
I mean, if he's all powerful, he could have just created us and
plonked us down on any old thing that didn't have to be part of a
larger system at all. Why does an all-powerful being need to create
or use any physical laws/properties at all? Perhaps your god was
limited by existing laws of physics, which would mean he wasn't all-
powerful.
Why would a god need to create bacteria (or viruses or ants or
trees . . .) if he wasn't going to offer them a chance to get into
heaven, as well? He could have endowed clams with consciousness and
made them his chosen critters if all he'd wanted was company,
something to control or something that would worship him. He could
certainly have made mankind able to survive in a vacuum and then there
would be no need to create an entire planetary support system, so why
all the extra stuff?
If you're going to insist that your god is the creator of everything -
and (I'm assuming here) insist that this view of life and the universe
be taught in science classes, you'll have to start thinking about
those questions, and more, and find ways to investigate them in a
scientific manner.
mlw
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He created neutrons at the Big Bang by concentrating Dark energy.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
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On Jul 11, 4:30 pm, "Sla#s" <p...@KNOTslatts.net> wrote:
BURT wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in the
spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. All the
rest are just details." Albert Einstein
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
"...the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Albert Einstein
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Slatts
"God does not play dice." Albert Einstein
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He doesn't believe in a personal God. See above.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
* wants them to do because I notice it always *
* coincides with their own desires." *
* --Susan B. Anthony *
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 12, 5:18 pm, Sanforized <sanfori...@naol.con> wrote:
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BURT wrote:
If you're going to insist that your god is the creator of everything -
and (I'm assuming here) insist that this view of life and the universe
be taught in science classes, you'll have to start thinking about
those questions, and more, and find ways to investigate them in a
scientific manner.
mlw
He created neutrons at the Big Bang by concentrating Dark energy.
So there is infinity in the universe then?
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No.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 12, 7:13 pm, Enkidu <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote:
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Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote in news:56bdd697-
3ce0-431e-abda-97bdbb7cb...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
So there is infinity in the universe then?
No.
You couldn't devise an experiment to determine if the light in the fridge
stays on. Nobody cares what you think.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
You imply that -Christians- are tolerant, but the reality is modern western
society is tolerant, and Christians have to go along with that whether they
like it or not. And Christian history implies strongly that they do not.
-- Joe Cosby
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Go put on your cloak of honor your robe of authority.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
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One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He created our scientific journey.
Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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BURT wrote:
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If you're going to insist that your god is the creator of everything -
and (I'm assuming here) insist that this view of life and the universe
be taught in science classes, you'll have to start thinking about
those questions, and more, and find ways to investigate them in a
scientific manner.
mlw
He created neutrons at the Big Bang by concentrating Dark energy.
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So there is infinity in the universe then? |
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Enkidu
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raemsch@gmail.com> wrote in news:56bdd697-
3ce0-431e-abda-97bdbb7cbc05@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
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So there is infinity in the universe then?
No.
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You couldn't devise an experiment to determine if the light in the fridge
stays on. Nobody cares what you think.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
You imply that -Christians- are tolerant, but the reality is modern western
society is tolerant, and Christians have to go along with that whether they
like it or not. And Christian history implies strongly that they do not.
-- Joe Cosby |
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Sanforized
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
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On Jul 12, 5:18 pm, Sanforized <sanfori...@naol.con> wrote:
BURT wrote:
If you're going to insist that your god is the creator of everything -
and (I'm assuming here) insist that this view of life and the universe
be taught in science classes, you'll have to start thinking about
those questions, and more, and find ways to investigate them in a
scientific manner.
mlw
He created neutrons at the Big Bang by concentrating Dark energy.
So there is infinity in the universe then?
No.
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Well that makes no sense at all. You're saying your "He"
meaning God the creator doesn't have unlimited powers?
Want to clarify that one? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
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On Jul 12, 7:13 pm, Enkidu <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote:
Mitch Raemsch <mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com> wrote in news:56bdd697-
3ce0-431e-abda-97bdbb7cb...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
So there is infinity in the universe then?
No.
You couldn't devise an experiment to determine if the light in the fridge
stays on. Nobody cares what you think.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
You imply that -Christians- are tolerant, but the reality is modern western
society is tolerant, and Christians have to go along with that whether they
like it or not. And Christian history implies strongly that they do not.
-- Joe Cosby
Go put on your cloak of honor your robe of authority.
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You seem to be running out of answers. Perhaps you need
someone to rewind you? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: Re: When God Created Physics |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, BURT <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote:
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He created our scientific journey.
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Including the wrong science of Genesis?
Exodus?
Deuteronomy?
The rest of the bible?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack. |
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