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BURT
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
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tadchem
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 13, 3:19 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
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Turn on any AM radio during a thunderstorm. You'll hear the invisible
radio waves lightning emits.
Lightning has different colors at different altitudes.
http://florica.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/lightning/
I'll bet you've never seen lightning above 10,000 m altitude. I have
spent many summer evenings in Colorado's Front Range looking out to
the storms in the east and watching the lightning. I saw superbolts
and blue jets. [The blue jets were *known* long before 1994, but they
were very hard to catch on camera, so they weren't readily documented
until then. For this reason many meteorologists refused to accept
their existence for a long time.]
Tom Davidson
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Mitch Raemsch
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 13, 2:00 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Electricity isn't white or any specific color. The light (color) one
perceives when a lightning bolt rips across the sky is caused by the
photons that are emitted when this electric field excites the atoms
and molecules in the atmosphere. The molecules are ionized then the
atoms in an excited state drop back to their lower state, emitting a
photon in the process. This photon will have a wavelength determined
by the atom from which it was released.
Gordon
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They then must be full range spectrum emmisions. What about invisible
wavelengths or energies? |
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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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Dear tadchem:
"tadchem" <tadchem@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I have spent many summer evenings in
Colorado's Front Range looking out to
the storms in the east and watching the
lightning. I saw superbolts and blue jets.
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Are you missing it yet? Being out east.. must be some sort of
pull to the west still...
David A. Smith |
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Bert Hickman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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BURT wrote:
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
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Electricity itself has no "color". An electrical current flowing through
an ionized gas will emit light. A high current lightning channel is
extremely hot (28 - 30,000 K) and is therefore seen as a blue-white
color. The current-carrying portion of the lightning discharge is
compressed into a very hot filamentary channel by self-magnetic forces,
and becomes a black body radiator with emissions spanning the infra-red
through ultraviolet portions of the spectrum.
Bert
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Antares 531
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromitch@yahoo.com>
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Electricity isn't white or any specific color. The light (color) one |
perceives when a lightning bolt rips across the sky is caused by the
photons that are emitted when this electric field excites the atoms
and molecules in the atmosphere. The molecules are ionized then the
atoms in an excited state drop back to their lower state, emitting a
photon in the process. This photon will have a wavelength determined
by the atom from which it was released.
Gordon |
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
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[snip]
They then must be full range spectrum emmisions. What about invisible
wavelengths or energies?
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Like someone else said: Turn on your AM radio during a storm.
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Antares 531
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT), Mitch Raemsch
<mitch.nicolas.raemsch@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 13, 2:00 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Electricity isn't white or any specific color. The light (color) one
perceives when a lightning bolt rips across the sky is caused by the
photons that are emitted when this electric field excites the atoms
and molecules in the atmosphere. The molecules are ionized then the
atoms in an excited state drop back to their lower state, emitting a
photon in the process. This photon will have a wavelength determined
by the atom from which it was released.
Gordon
They then must be full range spectrum emmisions. What about invisible
wavelengths or energies?
The spectrum is determined by the gasses and dust particles present in |
the field of the lightning bolt. This varies, as a function of
altitude and atmospheric dust particles.
The radio frequency noise generated by a lightning bolt is the result
of the shifting electric field as the bolt spreads out or progresses.
There are usually thousands of small branches linked with the major
bolt, and each of these produces a burst of radio frequency "static"
as they are generated.
Gordon |
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tadchem
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 13, 4:15 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl...@cox.net>
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Dear tadchem:
"tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e8b556f5-6189-4d26-a43c-ae00914b4c44@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
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I have spent many summer evenings in
Colorado's Front Range looking out to
the storms in the east and watching the
lightning. I saw superbolts and blue jets.
Are you missing it yet? Being out east.. must be some sort of
pull to the west still...
David A. Smith
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I miss ... the HORIZON.
I miss ... snow-capped mountains.
I miss ... seeing Pike's Peak from my office window 70 miles away.
I miss ... sidewalks.
I miss ... roads with paved shoulders.
I miss ... crosswalks.
Tom Davidson
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 13, 8:19 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
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I've been lobbying for rainbow lightning for *years*. Oh well, while
there's life, there hope. |
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jmfbahciv
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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tadchem wrote:
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On Jul 13, 3:19 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Turn on any AM radio during a thunderstorm. You'll hear the invisible
radio waves lightning emits.
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I use that to figure out if I want to unplug everything  .
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Lightning has different colors at different altitudes.
http://florica.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/lightning/
I'll bet you've never seen lightning above 10,000 m altitude. I have
spent many summer evenings in Colorado's Front Range looking out to
the storms in the east and watching the lightning. I saw superbolts
and blue jets. [The blue jets were *known* long before 1994, but they
were very hard to catch on camera, so they weren't readily documented
until then. For this reason many meteorologists refused to accept
their existence for a long time.]
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That makes no sense; weren't there any meteorologists in the area you
saw them?
I never heard of the term blue jets; thanks.
/BAH |
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Burger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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tadchem wrote:
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On Jul 13, 3:19�pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Turn on any AM radio during a thunderstorm. You'll hear the invisible
radio waves lightning emits.
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You gotta be kidding, right?
You fucking selfestablished high ranked baboon, once again
You hear at best up to a 5k parasitic AM modulation,
At least you should know that you cannot hear radio waves under any
circumstance, let alone an AM radio
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Tom Davidson
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ahhahaaha, what a mooorooon
Thanks Mitch |
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Burger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 13, 10:15 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl...@cox.net>
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Dear tadchem:
"tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e8b556f5-6189-4d26-a43c-ae00914b4c44@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
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I have spent many summer evenings in
Colorado's Front Range looking out to
the storms in the east and watching the
lightning. I saw superbolts and blue jets.
Are you missing it yet? Being out east.. must be some sort of
pull to the west still...
David A. Smith
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Yees, whatever
I suspect you also hear invisible, colored
light and radio waves under thunderstorms in AM radios
right ?
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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Insufficient quantities of hallucinogenic drugs?
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tadchem
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Why isn't lightning coloured? |
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On Jul 14, 3:30Â pm, Burger <d...@count.com> wrote:
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tadchem wrote:
On Jul 13, 3:19�pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why is electricity white? Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths
also?
Mitch Raemsch
Turn on any AM radio during a thunderstorm. Â You'll hear the invisible
radio waves lightning emits.
You gotta be kidding, right?
You fucking selfestablished high ranked baboon, once again
You hear at best up to a 5k parasitic AM modulation,
At least you should know that you cannot hear radio waves under any
circumstance, let alone an AM radio
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http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/fillings.asp
http://radio.about.com/od/funradiothingstodo/ss/10WeirdRadio_5.htm
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=367925
But the AM radio certainly CAN hear radio waves! That is exactly what
it is designed to do.
And you can certainly hear an AM radio, unless you are profoundly
deaf.
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Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
ahhahaaha, what a mooorooon
Thanks Mitch
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Allow me to express the thought more precisely for you and any other
members of the suborder Vermilingua out there...
Turn on any AM radio during a thunderstorm. Lightning emits a broad
bandwidth of invisible radio waves. Some of these will fall within the
frequency band to which the AM radio is tuned. The AM radio will
detect these radio waves and rectify and filter them. This signal will
drive the speaker system, producing an audible sound representing the
amplitude envelope of the narrow band of radio waves to which the
radio is tuned. You'll hear sounds associated with lightning strikes
up to 50 miles away, or more if conditions permit. Each burst of
'white noise' coming out of your radio is the acoustic 'signature' of
*invisible* radio waves emitted by lightning.
I hope this answers your query regarding invisible radiations emitted
by lightning: "Does it radiate at invisible wavelengths also?"
While nits may be a tasty treat for some, they hardly constitute a
balanced diet. What you are doing is equivalent to ordering a Waldorf
salad and eating only the chopped walnuts.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA |
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