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Mitch Raemsch
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But who felt weight?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 13, 5:54 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Quote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

   1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
   2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
   3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
   4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
   5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
   6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
   7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation.  Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias?  How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Space-time is two continuums Al. That's what's smart.

Mitch Raemsch
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 4:54 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Quote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

   1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
   2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
   3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
   4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
   5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
   6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
   7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation.  Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias?  How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

----------------------------
Uncle crackpotter!!

you are right that SR IS RIGHT!!

but you are a crackpotter if you say
that GR is right !!

its more than time for you to know what really time is
and what space is
Time is nothing but motion comparison to
some chosen MOTION REFERENCE!!
so time is just asscociated with the physical entity
that is called motion and NOTHING MORE
no other mysyerious properties asscociated with it !!
2
space has no properties except hosting matter
no other mystrious properties associated with it
so
space is something else
and time is something else
THE COMBINATION BETWEEN THE TWO
DOES NOT CREATE SOMETHING NEW OR ADITIONAL

WE HAVE JUST MOVEMENT IN SPACE
indeed einstein and others noticed by a lot of obseravtions
that there is something missing in the old physics
ie
**'some 'natural movement* in curved paths

**but it was wrong to associate it to the whole physical wprld!!

there are masses that move in straight line exact;y as Newtons
first law
AND
there are masses that move NATURALLY in CURVED PATHS
yet the two above are two different cases

the straight line belongs to big masses
and the curved movement belongs to only SOME of the
microcosm masses

and curved ( space time) was a wrong (combination ) trial
though very creative !!!!!!

so as usual
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS
and no jumping to conclusions
and please no endless extrapolations
or endless interpolations
because again
the devil is in the details (in the 'finnes' )

ATB
Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 6:36 am, The Ghost In The Machine
<ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
Quote:
In sci.physics.relativity, BURT
macromi...@yahoo.com
 wrote
on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
323f67fc-e83a-462c-81b9-37363627d...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>:

On Jul 13, 5:54 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

[snippage for brevity]



Space-time is two continuums Al. That's what's smart.

Space-time is an abstract concept, as is a cross-product.



Mitch Raemsch

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#191, ewi...@earthlink.net
/dev/signature: No such file or directory
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
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time is nothing but
motion comparison to some chosen motion reference

space has no properties except hosting matter

no additional mysterious properties to each of them
or the combination of them

now it was right that Einstein and others
sensed that there is somethin missing in our knowlwdge
ie
some natural curved movement!!
yet that belongs only
so SOME of the particles (or very small masses
ie the microcosm world)

but the bigg mistake was to take it to extreme
and say that
**all masses move in a curved kines*
and not suggest that only **some of them* behave that way **
so as usual
the devil is in the details !!

and we should know that in physics
we cant extrapolate or interpolate endlessly !!
or making sweeping laws without checking them
all along possible cases

ATB
Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 7:53 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 14, 4:54 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:



Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

   1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
   2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
   3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
   4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
   5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
   6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
   7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation.  Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias?  How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath..com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

----------------------------
Uncle crackpotter!!

you are right that SR      IS RIGHT!!

 but you are a crackpotter  if you say
that GR is right !!

its more than time for you to know what really time is
and what space is
Time is nothing but motion comparison to
some chosen  MOTION REFERENCE!!
so   time is just   asscociated with  the physical entity
that is called motion and NOTHING MORE
no other mysyerious properties asscociated with it !!
2
space has no properties   except hosting matter
no other mystrious properties associated with it
so
space is something else
and time is something else
THE COMBINATION BETWEEN THE TWO
DOES NOT CREATE SOMETHING NEW OR ADITIONAL

WE HAVE JUST MOVEMENT IN SPACE
indeed einstein and others noticed by a lot of obseravtions
that there is something missing in the old physics
ie
**'some 'natural movement* in curved paths

**but it was wrong to associate it to the whole physical wprld!!

there are masses that move in straight line exact;y as Newtons
first law
AND
 there are masses that move NATURALLY  in CURVED PATHS
yet  the  two above are two different cases

the straight line belongs to big masses
and the curved movement belongs to only SOME of the
microcosm   masses

and curved      ( space time)  was a wrong  (combination )    trial
though very creative !!!!!!

so    as usual
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS
and no jumping to conclusions
and please no endless   extrapolations
or endless interpolations
because again
the devil is in the details  (in the 'finnes' )

ATB
Y.Porat
=-----------------------

sorry the double posting
i though that one of them got lost
and phrased it twice (may be too quickly and hasty )
may be there is some little difference between the two (:-)

Y.P
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

Mitch Raemsch wrote:
Quote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But who felt weight?


Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.


1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation. Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias? How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

In sci.physics.relativity, BURT
<macromitch@yahoo.com>
wrote
on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
<323f67fc-e83a-462c-81b9-37363627d661@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>:
Quote:
On Jul 13, 5:54 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

[snippage for brevity]

Quote:

Space-time is two continuums Al. That's what's smart.

Space-time is an abstract concept, as is a cross-product.

Quote:

Mitch Raemsch


--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
/dev/signature: No such file or directory
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
news:57uqk5-1jt.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
| In sci.physics.relativity, BURT
| <macromitch@yahoo.com>
| wrote
| on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
| <323f67fc-e83a-462c-81b9-37363627d661@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>:
| > On Jul 13, 5:54 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
| >> Mitch Raemsch wrote:
| >>
| >> > It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
| >> > moves toward you? But who felt weight?
| >>
| >> Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
| >> spacetime.
|
| [snippage for brevity]
|
| >
| > Space-time is two continuums Al. That's what's smart.
|
| Space-time is an abstract concept, as is a cross-product.

Not quite as abstract as time-mass or mass-space, but equally as stupid as
deliberately confusing any two independent dimensions.




|
| >
| > Mitch Raemsch
| >
|
| --
| #191, ewill3@earthlink.net
| /dev/signature: No such file or directory
| ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 2:54 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Quote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote:

It excludes any movement through space. Move toward something and it
moves toward you? But  who felt weight?

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.

   1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
   2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
   3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
   4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
   5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
   6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
   7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation.  Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey babe -- get together with Mitch Raemsch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 5:25 pm, "B-Hate-Me" <B-Hate-Me@home> wrote:
Quote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:40690bbe-eca0-4272-944c-8c8c4e8dd3d6@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

space has no properties except hosting matter

Disagree. Space expands.

---------------

why use twisted complicated logic
while there is th e much simpler ::

it is not space that expands
it is masses in it that the distance between them is growing

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

Stooopid Mitch Raemsch doesn't know the difference between space and
spacetime.


1) Idiot Raemsch has no education.
2) Idiot Raemsch is no autodidact.
3) Idiot Raemsch has no math skills.
4) Idiot Raemsch is uncouth.
5) Idiot Raemsch is a masochist.
6) Idiot Raemsch is a eunuch in a brothel, a capon in a henhouse, a
steer amidst cows; a stot, a gelding, a gelt, a havier, a gib, a
lapin, a seg, a hog, a wether... a critic troll in a science
newsgroup.
7) Idiot Raemsch exercises anile kneejerk spasms befitting a
particulary inferior undergrad assignment in spew emulation. Having
pissed upon a skyscraper wall, troll Raemsch rears back and exhorts
the crowd to admire both his spoor and the stunted flesh straw that
emplaced it.

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias? How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

Don't hold back Al......Tell us how you REALLY feel!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Why relativity is nuts Reply with quote

"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
space has no properties except hosting matter

Disagree. Space expands.
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