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 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
exactly as in macrocosm !!
see :
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_history.html
TIA
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 11, 8:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip crappy qualitative argument]
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
NO MASS. Get with the 20th century. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 8:28 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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imbecil parrot !!
not only unable to understand his PDF data
yet impertiannt crook as well !!
23 years disturbed boy
finish fiest your BSc
get olser and wiser along a few decades
and only than come back as
Napoleon Bonaparte of physics
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
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That's what relativity says .. E = mc^2 (for rest mass and rest energy).
Its called mass-energy equivalence.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalence if you want some
more info
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so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
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Yeup .. there is an equivalence between an object's rest energy and its rest
mass
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or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
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That's kinetic energy .. yes. The total energy in a system is a combination
of the rest energy and the energy from the change in momentum (due to
motion). ie E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 .. where m is rest (invariant) mass, and
p is momentum. You can also write this as E = gamma.mc^2 ~= mc^2 + 1/2mv^2
when an object is in motion.
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exactly as in macrocosm !!
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Eh? were you talking about a microcosm .. you were talking about the big
bang there .. that's pretty macrocosmic.
BTW: You've done NOTHING to show photons have rest (invariant) mass. |
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Eric Gisse
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 12:20 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 8:28 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip crappy qualitative argument]
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
NO MASS. Get with the 20th century.
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imbecil parrot !!
not only unable to understand his PDF data
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You mean where it says the least upper bound on photon mass is
6x10^-17 eV?
[snip crap] |
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Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 11:37 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181621290.426603.231360@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
That's what relativity says .. E = mc^2 (for rest mass and rest energy).
Its called mass-energy equivalence.
Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalenceif you want some
more info
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
Yeup .. there is an equivalence between an object's rest energy and its rest
mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
That's kinetic energy .. yes. The total energy in a system is a combination
of the rest energy and the energy from the change in momentum (due to
motion). ie E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 .. where m is rest (invariant) mass, and
p is momentum. You can also write this as E = gamma.mc^2 ~= mc^2 + 1/2mv^2
when an object is in motion.
exactly as in macrocosm !!
Eh? were you talking about a microcosm .. you were talking about the big
bang there .. that's pretty macrocosmic.
BTW: You've done NOTHING to show photons have rest (invariant) mass.
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lier !!
now what now??
do you agree that the big bang
and what ahppened there all along
is another proof for photons having invariant mass??
TIA
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 12:00 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 12:20 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:28 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip crappy qualitative argument]
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
NO MASS. Get with the 20th century.
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imbecil parrot !!
not only unable to understand his PDF data
You mean where it says the least upper bound on photon mass is
6x10^-17 eV?
[snip crap]
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i say that in that table you see
a too wide dsipersion of results
that means doubtful credibility !!
not because of lackof tallent of the experimentalists
but because the objective difficulty
to carry out that mission
yet the main point is that
ACTUALLY THERE IS NO MORE NEED TO PROVE
MASS FOR THE PHOTON
WAHT HAS ALREADY DONE BY OTHERS
AND BY ME IN THE PHOTON ANAYSIS OF
e=hf WHICH IS EXPERIMENTAL
is more than eonough for that proof
what i am and others are going to realise
by my new collection of data as shown above
i susut
ANOTHER **indendant** CROSS VERIFICATION
about what i ahve already done before !!
so my suggestion to you Eric
just start to prepare youself a respectable retreat....
ATB
Y.Porat
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Eric Gisse
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 1:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 12:00 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 12:20 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:28 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip crappy qualitative argument]
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
NO MASS. Get with the 20th century.
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imbecil parrot !!
not only unable to understand his PDF data
You mean where it says the least upper bound on photon mass is
6x10^-17 eV?
[snip crap]
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i say that in that table you see
a too wide dsipersion of results
that means doubtful credibility !!
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This is so fucking stupid, I am amazed someone who can breathe
unassisted would say it.
[snip remainder, unread] |
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Eric Gisse
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 1:31 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 11:37 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181621290.426603.231360@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
That's what relativity says .. E = mc^2 (for rest mass and rest energy).
Its called mass-energy equivalence.
Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalenceifyou want some
more info
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
Yeup .. there is an equivalence between an object's rest energy and its rest
mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
That's kinetic energy .. yes. The total energy in a system is a combination
of the rest energy and the energy from the change in momentum (due to
motion). ie E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 .. where m is rest (invariant) mass, and
p is momentum. You can also write this as E = gamma.mc^2 ~= mc^2 + 1/2mv^2
when an object is in motion.
exactly as in macrocosm !!
Eh? were you talking about a microcosm .. you were talking about the big
bang there .. that's pretty macrocosmic.
BTW: You've done NOTHING to show photons have rest (invariant) mass.
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lier !!
now what now??
do you agree that the big bang
and what ahppened there all along
is another proof for photons having invariant mass??
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There is no "proof", you fucking moron.
Stop posting shit to sci.*, because you are stupid.
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TIA
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 2:50 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 1:31 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 11:37 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181621290.426603.231360@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
That's what relativity says .. E = mc^2 (for rest mass and rest energy).
Its called mass-energy equivalence.
Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalenceifyouwant some
more info
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
Yeup .. there is an equivalence between an object's rest energy and its rest
mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
That's kinetic energy .. yes. The total energy in a system is a combination
of the rest energy and the energy from the change in momentum (due to
motion). ie E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 .. where m is rest (invariant) mass, and
p is momentum. You can also write this as E = gamma.mc^2 ~= mc^2 + 1/2mv^2
when an object is in motion.
exactly as in macrocosm !!
Eh? were you talking about a microcosm .. you were talking about the big
bang there .. that's pretty macrocosmic.
BTW: You've done NOTHING to show photons have rest (invariant) mass.
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lier !!
now what now??
do you agree that the big bang
and what ahppened there all along
is another proof for photons having invariant mass??
There is no "proof", you fucking moron.
Stop posting shit to sci.*, because you are stupid.
TIA
Y.Porat
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the disturbed Nazi shit
opened his imbecilic mouth again
a walking disaster to this ng
please by pass the sick boy
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 12, 8:28 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip crappy qualitative argument]
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
NO MASS. Get with the 20th century.
-------------
imbecil parrot !!
not only unable to understand his PDF data
yet impertiannt crook as well !!
23 years disturbed boy
finish fiest your BSc
get olser and wiser along a few decades
and only than come back as
Napoleon Bonaparte of physics
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Photons have no rest mass .. that's something the SR says must be the case.
That's been proven to you in your threads time and time again. I know your
a poor old rat, but try to learn, instead of parroting your own
misconceptions. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 11, 11:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
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Sorry, bad conclusion.
Just because A turns into B does NOT mean that A includes B.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies, but caterpillars do not include
butterflies.
Stars can turn into black holes, but they do not contain black holes.
Neutrons turn into protons, electrons, and neutrinos, but neutrons do
not include protons, electrons, and neutrinos.
J/psis turn into muon-antimuon pairs, but J/psis do not include muon-
antimuon pairs. They also turn into electron-antielectron pairs, but
don't include electron-antielectron pairs.
Electrons radiate photons, but do not include photons.
Energy turns into matter, but energy does not include matter.
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and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
exactly as in macrocosm !!
see :
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_history.html
TIA
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 3:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 11, 11:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
Sorry, bad conclusion.
Just because A turns into B does NOT mean that A includes B.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies, but caterpillars do not include
butterflies.
Stars can turn into black holes, but they do not contain black holes.
Neutrons turn into protons, electrons, and neutrinos, but neutrons do
not include protons, electrons, and neutrinos.
J/psis turn into muon-antimuon pairs, but J/psis do not include muon-
antimuon pairs. They also turn into electron-antielectron pairs, but
don't include electron-antielectron pairs.
Electrons radiate photons, but do not include photons.
Energy turns into matter, but energy does not include matter.
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
exactly as in macrocosm !!
see :
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_history.html
TIA
Y.Porat
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pD jsut do a favour to youself
and dont bring your bilogic irerleavnt
cheating example
because you will reveal that you are complete ignorant
about structure of matter
and will show tha tyou are apolitician and not a scientist
mass to energy and vice versa
AS SHOWN BY THE BIG BANG AND THE LINK
I QUOTED ABOUVE
IS NOT THE ORGANIC WORLD
and it is not pjylosophy of Aoplaton
it is a very specific world of possiblities
much less degres of freedonm
as in phylosophy!!
thje big bang showes a chain of construction of matter
it starts with energy
goes on with basic primitive degrees of development
of matter
there isd no many possiblities in that
chain of process
there is no shortcuts there
it is step by step
and NOT TOO MANYSTEPS
because the inorganic structure of matter
is much simpler than you butterflies
so stop obfuscating
unless you realy dont understand the
different **stages *of big bang!!n o
buterfiles there
the most relevant stage is the transformation from
ENERY -- TO MASS
can you identify it there ??
and waht is the temperature thee
at the mid ghig bang
can you have manypossibilities there
or is it a one way process!!
thj eeeverse way process we know
from the beginning of the 20 century
it is mass becomes energy
the reverse process is much later known
th etransfere of
energy to mass
by a step by step process
that is TEMPERATURE DEPENDANT !!!
it is not your butterfiles story
so jsut start being more responsible
with your answers !!
if in the big bang energy terned to mass
it means only one thing for reasonable scientsut
thjat think
th emass was laways there even in the
energy state !!it jsut dressed itself
with different phase shapes
if youlike a beter example
like solid changing toliquid and changing to
gass
ASTEMPERATURE DEPENDANCE
that is just a guide for understanding
the same substance but different
what ??
different shel we say differnt texture ??
i have to look for a better methaphore !!anyway betetr and closer to
reality than your s!
but again
oleaase note the very specific
steps of big bang
no much other possibilities
at least not the denial of mass
being there
that cant be created from nothing
peapel used to admit (because of no other chice)
that energy has mass but they said
'it is relativistic mass'
yet while as for now
we know that there is only one kind of mass
invariant mass !!
ATB
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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On Jun 12, 4:12 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 12, 3:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 11:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
Sorry, bad conclusion.
Just because A turns into B does NOT mean that A includes B.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies, but caterpillars do not include
butterflies.
Stars can turn into black holes, but they do not contain black holes.
Neutrons turn into protons, electrons, and neutrinos, but neutrons do
not include protons, electrons, and neutrinos.
J/psis turn into muon-antimuon pairs, but J/psis do not include muon-
antimuon pairs. They also turn into electron-antielectron pairs, but
don't include electron-antielectron pairs.
Electrons radiate photons, but do not include photons.
Energy turns into matter, but energy does not include matter.
and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
exactly as in macrocosm !!
see :
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_history.html
TIA
Y.Porat
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pD jsut do a favour to youself
and dont bring your bilogic irerleavnt
cheating example
because you will reveal that you are complete ignorant
about structure of matter
and will show tha tyou are apolitician and not a scientist
mass to energy and vice versa
AS SHOWN BY THE BIG BANG AND THE LINK
I QUOTED ABOUVE
IS NOT THE ORGANIC WORLD
and it is not pjylosophy of Aoplaton
it is a very specific world of possiblities
much less degres of freedonm
as in phylosophy!!
thje big bang showes a chain of construction of matter
it starts with energy
goes on with basic primitive degrees of development
of matter
there isd no many possiblities in that
chain of process
there is no shortcuts there
it is step by step
and NOT TOO MANYSTEPS
because the inorganic structure of matter
is much simpler than you butterflies
so stop obfuscating
unless you realy dont understand the
different **stages *of big bang!!n o
buterfiles there
the most relevant stage is the transformation from
ENERY -- TO MASS
can you identify it there ??
and waht is the temperature thee
at the mid ghig bang
can you have manypossibilities there
or is it a one way process!!
thj eeeverse way process we know
from the beginning of the 20 century
it is mass becomes energy
the reverse process is much later known
th etransfere of
energy to mass
by a step by step process
that is TEMPERATURE DEPENDANT !!!
it is not your butterfiles story
so jsut start being more responsible
with your answers !!
if in the big bang energy terned to mass
it means only one thing for reasonable scientsut
thjat think
th emass was laways there even in the
energy state !!it jsut dressed itself
with different phase shapes
if youlike a beter example
like solid changing toliquid and changing to
gass
ASTEMPERATURE DEPENDANCE
that is just a guide for understanding
the same substance but different
what ??
different shel we say differnt texture ??
i have to look for a better methaphore !!anyway betetr and closer to
reality than your s!
but again
oleaase note the very specific
steps of big bang
no much other possibilities
at least not the denial of mass
being there
that cant be created from nothing
peapel used to admit (because of no other chice)
that energy has mass but they said
'it is relativistic mass'
yet while as for now
we know that there is only one kind of mass
invariant mass !!
ATB
Y.Porat
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Mr PD
please have an intentive look to the
coulerful chart in the link a quoted
at my OP post:
look at it itentively
and please tell me
in what [point there you see
the transffere from enegy to a massive entity ?
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please not that it is all temperature dependant .
TIA
Y.Porat
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: Re: The Big Bang--another proofe of photons having mass!! |
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In article <1181651311.973697.130520@r19g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
PD <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 11, 11:08 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the big Bang Theory
the big bang started by Energy compression
after that compression explosion
matter started to be created
as a result of cooling down
iow
we have here a process of
ENERGY TURNED IN TO MATTER -MASSIVE MATTER .
so the conclusion is
energy includes mass
Sorry, bad conclusion.
Just because A turns into B does NOT mean that A includes B.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies, but caterpillars do not include
butterflies.
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***{But they include the constituents of butterflies--which means: they
contain parts that can be rearranged to produce butterflies. --MJ}***
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Stars can turn into black holes, but they do not contain black holes.
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***{They do, however, contain the constituents of black holes. --MJ}***
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Neutrons turn into protons, electrons, and neutrinos, but neutrons do
not include protons, electrons, and neutrinos.
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***{If not, then they contain the constituents of protons, electrons,
and neutrinos. --MJ}***
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J/psis turn into muon-antimuon pairs, but J/psis do not include muon-
antimuon pairs.
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***{If not, then they contain the constituents of muon-antimuon pairs.
--MJ}***
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They also turn into electron-antielectron pairs, but
don't include electron-antielectron pairs.
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***{If not, they contain the constituents of electron-positron pairs.
--MJ}***
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Electrons radiate photons, but do not include photons.
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***{If not, they contain the constituents of photons. --MJ}***
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Energy turns into matter, but energy does not include matter.
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***{But it includes the constituents of matter--and mass is an
irreducible constituent of matter; hence energy has mass.
Why is mass an irreducible constituent of matter? Because it is an
irreducible constituent of existents. The reason: an existent that did
not have mass would be undetectable: no object, colliding with it, would
be deflected in the slightest as a result of the collision. It would not
deflect photons, so we would not be able to see it; it would not deflect
our fingers or any other material objects, so we would not be able to
touch it or detect it by its effects on other objects; it would not, by
its vibrations, induce vibrations in air or other nearby matter, so we
would not be able to hear it; and so on. Result: it would not exist.
In order to exist--to be an existent--a thing must have mass. Hence if
photons are existents, they must have mass.
--Mitchell Jones}***
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and since we know now that there is just one kind of mass - invariant
mass-
energy includes invariant mass
or in other words
Energy is mass in motion!
exactly as in macrocosm !!
see :
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_history.html
TIA
Y.Porat
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